胜出行政长官选举的所需得票率

胜出行政长官选举的所需得票率

在行政长官的选举中,你是否同意胜出的候选人应至少获得某一个比率的选票?如果同意,你认为该得票率应定为多少?你认为最低得票率的规定也适用於只有两位候选人的情况?

陳弘毅 Albert Chen - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
陳弘毅 Albert Chen - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
在行政長官的選舉中,你是否同意勝出的候選人應至少獲得(在該次選舉投下的票中)某一個比率的選票?如果同意,你認為該得票率應定為多少?你認為最低得票率的規定也適用於只有兩位候選人的情況? In a general election of the Chief Executive, do you agree that the winning candidate should have to obtain a minimum proportion of votes (from those who voted in the election) and if so what should that proportion be? Do you think the minimum proportion requirement should also apply if there are only two candidates?
區諾軒 Au Nok Hin - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
區諾軒 Au Nok Hin - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
在行政長官的選舉中,你是否同意勝出的候選人應至少獲得(在該次選舉投下的票中)某一個比率的選票?如果同意,你認為該得票率應定為多少?你認為最低得票率的規定也適用於只有兩位候選人的情況? In a general election of the Chief Executive, do you agree that the winning candidate should have to obtain a minimum proportion of votes (from those who voted in the election) and if so what should that proportion be? Do you think the minimum proportion requirement should also apply if there are only two candidates?
戴耀廷 Benny Tai - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
戴耀廷 Benny Tai - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
在行政長官的選舉中,你是否同意勝出的候選人應至少獲得(在該次選舉投下的票中)某一個比率的選票?如果同意,你認為該得票率應定為多少?你認為最低得票率的規定也適用於只有兩位候選人的情況? In a general election of the Chief Executive, do you agree that the winning candidate should have to obtain a minimum proportion of votes (from those who voted in the election) and if so what should that proportion be? Do you think the minimum proportion requirement should also apply if there are only two candidates?
周庭 Agnes Chow - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
周庭 Agnes Chow - 當選行政長官的所需得票率 The Minimum Percentage Needed to Win the CE Election
在行政長官的選舉中,你是否同意勝出的候選人應至少獲得(在該次選舉投下的票中)某一個比率的選票?如果同意,你認為該得票率應定為多少?你認為最低得票率的規定也適用於只有兩位候選人的情況? In a general election of the Chief Executive, do you agree that the winning candidate should have to obtain a minimum proportion of votes (from those who voted in the election) and if so what should that proportion be? Do you think the minimum proportion requirement should also apply if there are only two candidates?
  • Jennifer Eagleton

    I’m undecided at this stage about minimum percentage. Maybe it is easier if a candidate achieves the greatest number ovotes out of all those standing for the position, so this number (percentage) would fluctuate from election to election. If just two people are standing it would perhaps be easier to use this method. Maybe for more than two candidates a minimum percentage should apply as this “dilutes” the ballot somewhat, maybe over 40% – and if under, perhaps a run-off, whereby candidates under a certain percentage drop out and the higher achievers then take part in a runoff. I suppose there would be undecided voters who would spoil their ballot or leave it intentionally blank; I’m not sure if this would be a high percentage though.

  • Just a HongKonger

    Under instant-runoff voting, someone will *always* eventually win 50% of the valid votes.

  • 一市民

    勝出行政長官選舉所需得票率,不能少于60%,可以用多輪投票制。如果得票率要求低,加上投票率不高,那位當選的行政長官認受性,就會出現大問題。

    • Y.H. LAM

      I agree with the writer.

  • peterlee

    就普選特首的咨詢我想出個建議,目前看來提名委員會這個關卡上巳經被大量或明或暗的“護法”
    用個“法”字堵得密不透風,篩選已成定局,看來已幾無爭取空間,既然此路不通,還要提防“被”原地踏步,那我們何不就考慮依法到底,就讓那個提名委員會随他們所想的“法”
    去組成,並且“機構提名”出幾個人出來給我們投票,但為了體現當選人有足夠的公衆認受性,防止再出“689”
    式笑話,所以我基於政府諮詢文件的第三章:《2017年行政長官產生辦法-可考慮的議題》中之3.24項,〈關於特首選舉中候選人之所得票數〉建議提高當選門檻,即在普選投票進行後,要求最高得票者(當選人)之得票票數必須達到全港已有效登記選民總人數的某個百份比,(建議不能低於登記選民總數的百份之三十五,以2013年巳登記選民347萬計算,即一百二十一萬票左右),得票不足則全盤流選再來,不搞復選或進階陶汰制,此舉除依足基本法大大增加“民主成份”和認受性之外,也讓選民多出一個可以選擇不投票的權利,亦會令到無論是擅長玩街頭選戰的民主派,還是搞配票功夫了得的建制派,都會在選舉工程上甚或幕後操縱上都極大地增加了難度。在這強大的票數壓力下,或許能引導當局面對現實,用心去“協商”甚至“開愛國速成班”找出一些真正有能力、有誠意、有抱負、有民意基礎的人仕來参選。當然,這個方式流選機會比較大,一定又會成了某些人以“政府不能無人領導”為由作出反對,不過我認為這個根本無需多慮,因為在政府的運作上還有我們引以為傲的公務員團隊。

    再引用最近一次的2012年立法會選舉中等於全民普選的〈功能組别二〕的選舉結果以供參考,其中被定性為“不愛國不愛港”
    的何俊仁228840票,涂謹申316468票,馮檢基262172票,也就是“雙不”的泛民共得807480票。再到“愛國愛港”的劉江華199732票,李慧琼277143票,陳婉嫻246196票,這部份“雙愛”總得723071票,再把屬性不明的白韻琹所得之61321票也加進“雙愛”,“雙愛”的建制派總得就是784392票。从以上“双不”與“双愛”两組票數來看其實旗鼓相當,如以建議的121萬票才能當選的話,則需努力從對方手上多爭取四十萬票,而這正就是認受性的最大體現,同時也如北京某教授所言,是阻止“極端人仕”當選執政的最有效方法。

5 Responses

  1. Jennifer Eagleton
    Jennifer Eagleton %x %A at %I:%M%p |

    I’m undecided at this stage about minimum percentage. Maybe it is easier if a candidate achieves the greatest number ovotes out of all those standing for the position, so this number (percentage) would fluctuate from election to election. If just two people are standing it would perhaps be easier to use this method. Maybe for more than two candidates a minimum percentage should apply as this “dilutes” the ballot somewhat, maybe over 40% – and if under, perhaps a run-off, whereby candidates under a certain percentage drop out and the higher achievers then take part in a runoff. I suppose there would be undecided voters who would spoil their ballot or leave it intentionally blank; I’m not sure if this would be a high percentage though.

  2. Just a HongKonger
    Just a HongKonger %x %A at %I:%M%p |

    Under instant-runoff voting, someone will *always* eventually win 50% of the valid votes.

  3. 一市民
    一市民 %x %A at %I:%M%p |

    勝出行政長官選舉所需得票率,不能少于60%,可以用多輪投票制。如果得票率要求低,加上投票率不高,那位當選的行政長官認受性,就會出現大問題。

    1. Y.H. LAM
      Y.H. LAM %x %A at %I:%M%p |

      I agree with the writer.

  4. peterlee
    peterlee %x %A at %I:%M%p |

    就普選特首的咨詢我想出個建議,目前看來提名委員會這個關卡上巳經被大量或明或暗的“護法”
    用個“法”字堵得密不透風,篩選已成定局,看來已幾無爭取空間,既然此路不通,還要提防“被”原地踏步,那我們何不就考慮依法到底,就讓那個提名委員會随他們所想的“法”
    去組成,並且“機構提名”出幾個人出來給我們投票,但為了體現當選人有足夠的公衆認受性,防止再出“689”
    式笑話,所以我基於政府諮詢文件的第三章:《2017年行政長官產生辦法-可考慮的議題》中之3.24項,〈關於特首選舉中候選人之所得票數〉建議提高當選門檻,即在普選投票進行後,要求最高得票者(當選人)之得票票數必須達到全港已有效登記選民總人數的某個百份比,(建議不能低於登記選民總數的百份之三十五,以2013年巳登記選民347萬計算,即一百二十一萬票左右),得票不足則全盤流選再來,不搞復選或進階陶汰制,此舉除依足基本法大大增加“民主成份”和認受性之外,也讓選民多出一個可以選擇不投票的權利,亦會令到無論是擅長玩街頭選戰的民主派,還是搞配票功夫了得的建制派,都會在選舉工程上甚或幕後操縱上都極大地增加了難度。在這強大的票數壓力下,或許能引導當局面對現實,用心去“協商”甚至“開愛國速成班”找出一些真正有能力、有誠意、有抱負、有民意基礎的人仕來参選。當然,這個方式流選機會比較大,一定又會成了某些人以“政府不能無人領導”為由作出反對,不過我認為這個根本無需多慮,因為在政府的運作上還有我們引以為傲的公務員團隊。

    再引用最近一次的2012年立法會選舉中等於全民普選的〈功能組别二〕的選舉結果以供參考,其中被定性為“不愛國不愛港”
    的何俊仁228840票,涂謹申316468票,馮檢基262172票,也就是“雙不”的泛民共得807480票。再到“愛國愛港”的劉江華199732票,李慧琼277143票,陳婉嫻246196票,這部份“雙愛”總得723071票,再把屬性不明的白韻琹所得之61321票也加進“雙愛”,“雙愛”的建制派總得就是784392票。从以上“双不”與“双愛”两組票數來看其實旗鼓相當,如以建議的121萬票才能當選的話,則需努力從對方手上多爭取四十萬票,而這正就是認受性的最大體現,同時也如北京某教授所言,是阻止“極端人仕”當選執政的最有效方法。